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Ameya A's avatar

About 20 minutes in my desire to see the movie keeps going down. I'm no fan of Elon's political turn but he is quite obviously a genius, as measured by his actual accomplishments.

Gordo's avatar

Elon conned me into buying the best car I’ve ever owned, that son of a bitch.

Victor's avatar

What an example of just pure unadulterated smalll person jealousy to someone who was more successful. Honestly disappointing that people like this get to be public figures. And then you ask why young people are going socialist route.

Ben Smith's avatar

Elons turn from autistic tech genius trying to save the world to seemingly faschy psycho would be a great doc subject but jfc this gibney guy sucks. At a minimum, you have to admit that Elons an engineering genius. Moynihan, you’re a pussy if you’re “pissed” that mileage estimates are under ideal conditions.

Floofy Footed Pony's avatar

"I don't have any evidence but I've thrown an accusation out there and now it needs to be investigated" is literally Candace Owens conspiracy retard logic.

Andrew's avatar

This is a great episode!

Victor's avatar

just total conspiracy dribble and character attack. Lost giant amount of respect for M. Moynihan.

Michael C. Moynihan's avatar

The reason you know that there are two conspiratorial elements in the film, Victor, is because I pushed him on both of them. You might have preferred that I pushed harder, but there are a number of reasons I think that would have been unwise (which I am writing about now and will be in the next newsletter). Point is: you now know that you think he's trading in conspiracy and character attack! Mission accomplished. But more on this point soon... - mm

Victor's avatar

Election interference was your personal and Matt’s attack on Trump for a while now, and maybe valid one, but now it’s ok ? Don’t you see a very strong whiff of hypocrisy here ? And yes it and other point deserve very strong push back. Basic reason I subscribe to TFC is because I trust you and others maybe be wrong at times (in my personal opinion) but always be honest in your own. But now when couple of hours passed since I finished their episode, think even more mistake, would you have cordial episode with Candice Owen’s ?

Michael C. Moynihan's avatar

If you can't see the difference between the President of the United States peddling election conspiracies and a documentarian including a few sentences from an interview subject--which I *disagreed with him on including*--not sure i can help. And I think it's absurd to compare Gibney to a drooling lunatic like Candace Owens, who isn't "just asking questions" but providing bullshit answers.

Pete Tiernan's avatar

Bizarre take. You don’t like the subject so you lose respect for the interviewer?!?

I will watch the documentary with an open mind and critical eye; and the interview gives insight on the bias of the documentarian.

Gibney does display a naivety in the standard he sets for Musk as salesman. Don’t we all understand that advertising is entirely hyperbolic before understanding the physics of parallel parking?

Victor's avatar

I’m objecting tot he tone of the interview. Would say cordial interview will take place with Tucker if he says about 2020 elections equivalent of what said here ? At times it should be just not worth it to be cordial, leave these point of view for the conspiracy podcasts and msnnow.

davo's avatar

Interesting listen and good questions. Perhaps I’ll finish it later; I had to take a break because Alex Gibney is such a douche nozzle and exceptionally obtuse.

Trent Simpson's avatar

Did anyone else have adds in Chinese during the podcast?

Michael C. Moynihan's avatar

On YouTube?

Maybe they started paying attention after my Frank Dikotter episode for the Fifth...

Michael C. Moynihan's avatar

Very odd. Looking into it...